God Hates the Sin and Hates the Sinner

I know you’ve heard it said: “God hates the sin, but loves the sinner.” But is that really biblical? Can we reconcile that view with Psalm 11:5, where the Word says, “The LORD tests the righteous, but his soul hates the wicked and the one who loves violence” ? Justin Taylor recently approached that very question in this post. Here’s an excerpt he quoted from the late John L. McKenzie:

“There is a lawful hatred of the sinner; and indeed there must be, since such a hatred is the obverse of the love of God. The love of God hates all that is opposed to God; and sinners–not merely sin–are opposed to God. And if such a sentiment is lawful, its expression is lawful; and one may desire that the evil in another receive its corresponding evil–provided that this hatred is restrained within the limits of that which is lawful. These limits are:

1. Hatred must not be directed at the person of one’s neighbor; he is hated for his evil quality.

2. One may desire that the divine justice be accomplished in the sinner; but it must be a desire for divine justice, not a desire for the personal evil of another out of personal revenge.

3. The infliction of evil may not be desired absolutely, but only under the condition that the sinner remains obdurate and unrepentant.

4. It must be accompanied by that true supernatural charity which efficaciously desires the supreme good–the eternal happiness–of all men in general, not excluding any individual who is capable of attaining it. In a word, the sinner may lawfully be hated only when he is loved.”

John L. McKenzie, “The Imprecations of the Psalter.” American Ecclesiastical Review 111 (1944): 91.

Here are a few other quotes on the subject:

“Any and every unrighteous man must be the object of our hatred in respect of his unrighteousness and the object of our love in respect of his humanity; that by reproving the fault in him which rightly earns our hatred, we may liberate that in him which rightly earns our love, that is to say the human nature itself, and set right every fault in it.” – Augustine

“Before we were reconciled to God, he both hated and loved us. Why did he love us? Because we were his creatures […]. Yet at the same time, he hated us, because he is the source of all righteousness and had to hate the evil within us.” – John Calvin

“There was a time when the mountain of granite was not under me but over me, ready to fall and crush me. It was the mountain of God’s wrath against my sin. God hated me in my sin. Yes, I think we need to go the full Biblical length and say that God hates unrepentant sinners. If I were to soften it, as we so often do, and say that God hates sin, most of you would immediately translate that to mean: he hates sin but loves the sinner. But Psalm 5:5 says, “The boastful may not stand before thy eyes; thou hatest all evildoers.” And Psalm 11:5 says, “The Lord tests the righteous and the wicked, and his soul hates him that loves violence.”" -John Piper

(HT: Between Two Worlds)

~ by brotherhank on September 19, 2007.

12 Responses to “God Hates the Sin and Hates the Sinner”

  1. Boy, you Right-Wingers sure know how to twist the Bible. You are correct that God hates sinners – if you accept that the Bible is the word of your God, and not as the vast majority of the world believes; that it was merely written by a bunch of guys with a political agenda. You are wrong about your original point, however. The quote is that WE are supposed to hate the sin but love the sinner. Please don’t get me wrong, Christianity is the worst of the world’s religions, but you should at least get your talking points right.

  2. kip, glad you stopped by. I wonder though, if you believe in God, how did you come to that belief – if you don’t trust the Bible? It seems like from your comment that you believe that there are “sinners” in the world, but I’m interested to know how you came to that conclusion, apart from biblical revelation….

  3. How may I get in touch with Rev. David Miller? Does he have an email address? Or phone number? I am an old friend who just wants to renew acquaintance.
    Thanks,
    Terry Simpson

  4. Not quite sure brother…sorry….

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  6. Love the sinner, hate the sin… I’m not sure that can even be done. Is it even possible?

    Lessee here… According to God, man is only evil, continually, in his heart, imagination, works, thoughts, intents, words, deeds, actions, thinking, motives, goals…. After eliminating all that, what’s left of the sinner to love? His literal flesh and blood body? That’s gonna get really weird, really fast.

    So, if I’m to hate the sin (all that stuff), what’s left of the sinner to actually embrace? His elbow? Because, as we all know, elbows are inherently good and non-evil… heh

    What’s left of man after you eliminate all that is sinful in man?

    Nothing.

  7. Exactly how do you reconcile this belief that God hates sinners with Romans 5:8, which clearly states that God loved us while we were STILL sinners? I’m sure your intellectual pride will drive you to find some rationalization for your belief, but not one that is congruent with this scripture.

    Romans 5:8 – But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

    • Brandon – Did you read the original post? God loves us, as His creation (with or without sin). He came to save the people he created. He can still hate sinners and He can still hate righteous (those made righteous by Him through grace). To Mr. Potato Head it, consider this in context. I love Trucks. I hate Chevy trucks, but I love Toyota trucks. Even though I love Trucks, I still hate Chevy trucks.

    • Sorry so long… I just now found your question. I suppose it will do no good to answer you now, but…

      The answer is that the Romans 5:8 does NOT say that God loved us while were were still sinners. It says that while we were still sinners, CHRIST DIED FOR US.

      There’s a difference there.

  8. God hates the sinner and loves the righteous…too bad not one of us is righteous, no not even one…(Rom. 3:10).

    We need to all fall on our faces at Psalm 11 because it points to a truth that excludes us all from the Kingdom…only through mercy are any of us saved…for we have all failed at the righteousness part…no one more so than the ones who have become deluded into thinking that they are righteous.

  9. A great book that is worth reading on this topic is Don Carsons “The difficult doctrine of the love of God”. It is basically the transcript of a lecture he gave which can be downloaded free from a site that I will paste the url of at the end of this message. On the site it is simply the love and I think it is number 4 in the list. I pray that it will benefit anyone who reads it.

    http://pjtibayan.wordpress.com/2006/10/17/d-a-carson-audio-sermonslectures/

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